There are several things that happen with fluorescent lights. The pulse of the fluorescent beats against the human energy field. It's like two fields beating against each other, which I realize sounds terrible. Flourescent lights also emit x-rays. So it really disrupts the human energy field, and in my book there is a case study about a female client who came in for a healing session. The woman had been working on a computer under fluorescent lighting for about six months for 12 hours a day. She got very, very ill. She was in her twenties, and she was able to take the skin under her arm and stretch it out four inches. The first layer of her energy field was breaking down. After she quit her job she got well right away.

DiCarlo: Are there any common misconceptions about the human energy field that you commonly encounter?

Brennan: Yes. People think it's layered like an onion and it's not. It has levels that extend all the way through, or frequency bands-that's the best analogy I can use.

Anybody looking at it with High Sense Perception will see the same thing if they are looking at the same structure. Many people seem to think they will see different things in the field, that what is perceived is determined by who does the perceiving. I don't think that is true.

The field changes very fast and some people don't understand that. Also, it's much more complicated than what people think. A lot of people will come up to me and say, "What color is my aura?" Well, the human energy field is comprised of all the colors there are, so some people might think they have, let's say, a "blue aura" and that means something. A person might have a lot of blue in the aura and that could mean a lot of different things. So it's not really simple.

The study of the human energy field is as complicated as the study of the anatomy and physiology of the physical body. There is a subtle anatomy and physiology in the human energy field.

DiCarlo: I have gotten into discussions with scientific researchers and doctors about the very term "energy" and as you know, that is the subject of a big debate. If these are fields are comprised of energy, this energy doesn't seem to behave in the way physicists have come to understand energy behaving-it seems to violate some of the rules of physics.

Brennan: Yes. I am using it rather sloppily here....I think that as we learn more about basic physics, all of these issues will be resolved. I am using the word "energy field" because it is more meaningful to most people than talking about holograms or something more difficult. From my perspective, there are energy fields. An energy field is the matrix or mold for the physical body. But it's that and much more than that. Take the phenomena of prayer for example. I can relate prayer to what happens in an individual's energy field and it's clearly something beyond that. Certainly life goes beyond the limited definitions of an energy field.

I know this from my own work with the deeper levels of the human energy field, where the healing methods are totally different. It is not like running energy or projecting energy into the field of another individual. It is more like healing with intentionality and there are very specific steps to that.

So in one sense we do in fact heal with bioplasmic streamers and certainly bioplasma has been measured. There are fields and there are field structures. And the deeper nature of the human being is much more than that. It goes much beyond that. I find the idea of a structured energy field to be very, very useful. When people learn to see it and we teach people how to do that all the time, it becomes extremely useful. And yet there are many things that happen that are beyond that concept.

I don't tend to argue with people. I tend to find the bridges between somebody else's interpretation of reality and my own. They are all limited ideas actually.

DiCarlo: You have said that the major cause of illness stems from how we habitually imbalance our fields, thereby making it weak and ourselves susceptible to physical illness. Why do we do this?

Brennan: Our fields become imbalanced because we all have certain belief systems that we grew up with and a whole string of childhood traumas. When you put both the traumas and belief systems-which most of the time are unconscious and actually based on traumas inflicted during childhood-together you create a picture of the world-a world view- which is not in keeping with what the world really is. In childhood, you try not to feel any traumas experienced in order to survive and the way that you succeed in not feeling these traumas is to block the flow of energy. They then become stuck in your field. So we create a way to hold these"blobs" shall we say, of consciousness and energy so that we might never have to experience them. This is strictly an automatic system that happens in everybody and in order to do that we have to distort the healthy field pattern. Once we've done that several times, once we've found an effective way not to feel terror let's say, as a child, we will continue to do that and eventually that will become a habitual pattern in the human energy field. The field will become imbalanced in order not to feel terror, fear or anger.

Then we act as if the world is terrorizing and a belief is formed. We approach the world from the perspective of terror. Because we see it that way, we eventually draw to us more experiences that make us believe in terror even more. But fortunately what happens is at some point things get so bad the individual cannot tolerate living that way anymore and sets out upon a path of personal change and healing.

That's actually what's happening to many, many people in this country now. Especially people in mid-life crises. The school that I have is filled with people in their late 30s and 40s. These people are saying in effect, "This isn't what I wanted in my life."

DiCarlo: So they are searching for the deeper causes of their unfulfilled life experience?

Brennan: Right. And it's about finding out what they really want. Usually it's the situation where you want something in your life and you just can't get it. No matter what you do you can't seem to create it and you know something is wrong. Actually, that is the negative carrot that turns us around. It's really a "fail-safe" system. If you are not getting what you really wanted to create, then what you are going to do is to create pain. That pain then will motivate you to change.

DiCarlo: In speaking about creation, it seems that the battle cry of the New Age is that "you create your own reality". Would you agree or disagree? Could you tell me how the creative process works?

Brennan: The statement is a limited one and I have said it many times. From the broader spiritual perspective we are all connected. We are connected in concentric spheres, so that those who are closer around us are more involved in the creation of our personal reality with us than those who are outside of that sphere. You can just expand that out concentrically. Our creations come from our individuals selves, and also the inner sphere of people around us, and then the next sphere, so we not only create as individuals, we create as groups, as communities, as nations, and as the whole of humanity. I think it's really important to understand how this works in illness. Let's say someone creates AIDS or cancer. It isn't an individual doing that. It is the whole of humanity. As a group we are creating the three major health problems of heart disease, cancer and AIDS. From that perspective, yes we create our own reality. But it's not because we are bad, and we are not the only one's involved in this creation because we are all connected.

From that perspective, you can then go to an individual level and see how each individual is distorting their energy field, which again, is the basic matrix structure for the physical body. This would thus make the physical body weak, allowing a microorganism to invade and cause illness. Any of those major illness, like heart disease will have certain and specific configurations or patterns of energy in the human energy field that are not healthy.

DiCarlo: If somebody holds a creative intention, what would be happening on an energetic level? How would that move down through the various dimensional levels of the human energy field and and eventually result in a physical manifestation?

Brennan: That's a really good question because the intentionality emerges from a deeper level of the human energy field. By aligning with a positive intention, you can shift your auric field immediately-the whole field can shift. The more you work to clarify that intentionality, for whatever it may be, for health, etc.., and hold that, the stronger your field will become. It is a more advanced healing technique. The beginning techniques of centering, grounding and opening the energy centers are usually necessary for the person to go through so they can actually learn to hold intent. One can be an expert at holding intent, or one can sort of fantasize and think they are holding a particular intent.

So intentionality is actually a learned process that directly affects the human energy field and therefore effects health very strongly. I have seen people turn around in one healing session. For example, there was a woman who was going blind in both eyes from detached retinas. An operation was advised, which may have worked, but which might also have blinded her so instead, we began working on her. I did one healing in which I did a lot of restructuring of the field and then worked with her intentionality. In the one eye she immediately went back to 20/20 vision. The other eye was much worse. She had 20/70 vision and was almost blind but after a series of healings over a one year period that eye improved to 20/30. But the one eye became normal in one healing and that kind of result is amazing.

In another case, a young girl had curvature of the spine and her spine was corrected by 15 degrees in one three minute healing. So things can happen quite rapidly although those are unusual examples. I am telling you the best cases.

DiCarlo: Can the type of energetic healing you do result in "miracle cures?" for those considered terminally ill?

Brennan: It can, though it's actually quite unusual. A miracle cure isn't really a miracle-it's simply speeding up what the body can naturally do. The body is a self-healing organism, so it's really about clearing things out of the way so the body can heal itself.

I have never seen a healer do anything the body can't do. But the body needs a lot of support. For an individual to heal a terminally ill condition, a lot of work is involved-work on the energy field itself, psychological work, better diet, etc..etc...

When I was working and had a practice, I would always work in conjunction with physicians, therapists and nutritionists. All of this is very important. So I don't see any separation between conventional medicine and healing. Everything is a miracle.

Excerpted from the book Towards A New World View: Conversations At The Leading Edge with Russell E. DiCarlo. The 377-page book features new and inspiring interviews with 27 paradigm pioneers in the fields of medicine, psychology, economics, business, religion, science, education and human potential. Featuring: Willis Harman, Matthew Fox, Joan Boysenko, George Leonard, Gary Zukav, Robert Monroe, Hazel Henderson, Fred Alan Wolf, Peter Senge, Jacquelyn Small, Elmer Green, Larry Dossey, Carolyn Myss, Stan Grof, Rich Tarnas, Marilyn Ferguson, Marsha Sinetar, Dr. Raymond Moody, Stephen Covey and Peter Russell.

Russell E. DiCarlo is a medical writer, author, lecturer and workshop leader who's focus is on personal transformation, consciousness research and the fields of energy and anti-aging medicine. His forthcoming book is entitled "The Definitive Guide To Anti-Aging Medicine" (1998, Future Medicine Publishing). DiCarlo resides in Erie, Pennsylvania.